WALES has come out as a nation of chavs and "chav-nots" on a web site dedicated to rooting out members of the baseball-capped, shellsuit-wearing underclass - but the Welsh are left trailing by the "chaviest" towns in England.
While Welsh councils point with pride to the positive aspects of their towns and cities, contributors to www.chavtowns.co.uk paint a very different picture of Welsh life.
No urban area is safe from these menacing "chavs" or "townies" in their revved-up cars, if these people are to believed. Some observers say the phrase is short for "council house and violent".
The former mining and rugby powerhouse of Neath is described as being peopled by "scrawny, pasty, hooded and Burberry- capped scrotes trawling the streets. It's like the lost world."
In Rhyl, "Townies mainly flock on a Saturday night. They are characterised by driving up and down Rhyl Prom in a clapped out Vauxhall Nova. This Nova will no doubt have a big stupid exhaust, a big 'sub' that will deaden any occupants of the Nova, and/or a purple light underneath it."
And Caerphilly earns the unflattering epithet "Caerfilthy" on the site, with descriptions of "collections of prams (not seen one with Lexus lights yet but it's only a matter of time) gathering outside Argos where 15-year-old mothers compare earrings - the most attractive pair seen yet were giant gold hoops with "Laura" emblazoned across them."
These, along with Llanelli, Tonyrefail, Cwmbran, Neath and Bargoed, are just a few of the vitriolic Welsh nominations vying for the dubious honour of being crowned the UK's "chaviest town".
None has yet broken into the top 10, with Croydon, Hull and Bristol exerting a stranglehold on the top three spots.
The web site follows in the wake of this year's "Crap Town" vote, where the Idler magazine sought nominations for the first UK-wide "crap map".
But in the latest vote it is Newport, home of ultimate ironic chav rap group Goldie Lookin' Chain, that can lay claim to being Wales' hotspot of "townie activity" - despite no longer being a town.
And not even Wales' capital city can escape being tarred with the brush of "chaviness". One contributor wrote, "Cardiff is definitely the chav centre of Wales. They live in many areas such as Ely, Fairwater, Butetown, Grangetown, St Mellons and Riverside.
"It is virtually impossible to drive around the city and not spot groups of chavs with their Barry-ed up cars 'jammin' with their bro's, homies and hoe chavettes. Who the hell do they think they are?
"Get a job, lose the bling and tracksuit, learn to speak properly and maybe Cardiff can once again be the great city it was.
"Get these chav scummers out."
But last night a spokeswoman for the council said they were taking the criticisms in good humour.
"Cardiff is a great city as the thousands of visitors who come here each year demonstrate," shesaid. "Not only is the city Europe's youngest capital but it is also home to such national gems as the National Museum of Wales; the Museum of Welsh Life; and the newly built Wales Millennium Centre.
"All good reasons for the choice of Cardiff as a European Centre of Cultural Excellence.
"The city can also boast a centre of stunning and varied architecture, surrounded by acres of parkland, while the magnificent Millennium Stadium brings major sporting events, concerts and conventions right into the heart of the city, all of which are the real reasons why Wales' capital is remembered."
She added, "We are not taking what has been said too seriously as Cardiff is an excellent city with a lot going for it."